It’s been nearly three months since Hoda Kotb left Jenna Bush Hager to helm the third hour of Today, and Bush Hager still has a lot to thank her former co-host for. Bush Hager credited Kotb’s exit for “a really good lesson in saying goodbye” in an interview with E!

What Hoda Kotb taught Jenna Bush Hager about goodbyes "It was a really good lesson in saying goodbye because I was so sad It was almost unthinkable that she wouldn't be here," the